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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Ram Dass and Mirabai Bush: Walking Each Other Home

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2018

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Ram Dass (born Richard Alpert) is a world-renowned spiritual teacher and the author of the indispensable classic Be Here Now. Despite suffering a massive stroke that left him with aphasia, Ram Dass continues to write and teach from his home in Maui. His longtime friend Mirabai Bush is the founder of the Center for Contemplative Mind in Society, and was the one of the co-creators of Google's Search Inside Yourself program. They have teamed with Sounds True to publish Walking Each Other Home: Conversations on Loving and Dying. In this special episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon speaks with Ram Dass and Mirabai Bush about changing our society's dysfunctional relationship to dying, focusing on how to ease fears around the process. They talk about facing a lifetime of regrets and why going into our last moments consciously is so important. Finally, Mirabai leads listeners in a practice designed to help release attachments and comments on why grieving is an important act of love. (63 minutes) Tami's Takeaway: Ram Dass, who is now 87 years old, has planned at the time of his death for there to be an open-air funeral in Maui. He has even secured a government license for this to happen. Ever the teacher (even when it comes to his own death), Ram Dass's intention is to introduce Westerners to teachings from the East—in this case, the value of sitting with a burning corpse while contemplating impermanence and living whole-heartedly. Of course, we don't need to wait until we are at an open-air funeral to engage in such contemplation. We are each asked to die in some way every day, to let go of an old image of ourselves or an outmoded configuration of some kind. Can we embrace the dying we are going through right now? And in the process, experience our hearts breaking open so that we can live and love fully, without constraint?

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This program is brought to you by sounds true.com.

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At sounds true.com you can find hundreds of downloadable audio

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learning programs, plus books, music, videos, and online courses, and events.

0:14.3

At sounds true.com, we think of ourselves

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as a trusted partner on the spiritual journey,

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offering diverse, in-depth, and life-changing wisdom.

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Sounds True.com, many voices, one journey. You're listening to insights at the edge. Today my guests are Ram Das and nearby Bush. Ram Das is an American

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spiritual teacher, former academic and clinical psychologist, and the author of the seminal spiritual book, Be Here Now.

0:56.2

Born as Richard Alpert, he traveled to India in 1967, where he met his guru, Nim K Baba, Maharaji, which is when everything changed for him.

1:08.0

20 years ago, Ram Das had a massive stroke that left him with aphasia and yet he still functions as a guiding

1:18.4

teacher for millions of people along the spiritual journey. Mirabai Bush is the founder and director of the Center for

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Contemplative Mind in Society, and she was also one of the creators of the Search

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Inside Yourself program at Google.

1:35.0

What sounds true, Brahmdas and Mirabai Bush have written a new beautiful book called Walking Each Other Home,

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conversations on loving and dying,

1:48.5

where they explore what it means to live

1:51.2

and die consciously, remembering who we really are and illuminating the path

1:57.7

that we all walk together.

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In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Ram Das and Mirabai and I talked about learning

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to release the fears we have about dying and also our accumulated regrets.

2:14.0

We talked about Ram Das's wishes for how his body is to be treated after his death

2:21.0

so that it becomes a teaching on dying.

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