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Raja to Trump: Stop Building Ballrooms and Reopen the Government!

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

News, Society & Culture, Politics, News Commentary

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Sam Stein talks with Congressman Raja Krishnamoorthi about ICE agents going rogue in Illinois, racism stoked by far-right lawmakers, and how Trump’s shutdown is hurting Americans. They also discuss U.S.–China tensions, redistricting wars, and the strange new alliances forming in Congress.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the Bullock. I'm joined by Congressman

0:03.9

Krishna Murthy of Illinois in the great eighth district. I wanted to thank the Congressman

0:08.8

for doing this. Appreciate it very much. We're here to talk about a host of different topics,

0:13.0

and I want to start with what's happening in your state, which is it's become kind of the

0:18.5

epicenter of standoffs between ICE, I guess, Border Patrol, we should be more specific, and communities in and around Chicago.

0:27.1

And we've had pretty testy court hearings.

0:30.1

We've had incredibly tense scenes from on the ground, a lot of civil strife.

0:36.3

I'm wondering what your senses of the latest

0:39.5

and what your fears are about the days and weeks ahead here. Well, my sense is that I think I hate

0:46.7

to say this about a government organization, but they're acting out of control, Sam. They are,

0:53.1

you know, I'll just give you one example. In my own congressional district,

0:57.6

there have been multiple incidents, incidents recently, but one is where they actually

1:02.1

snatched a U.S. citizen, 18-year-old woman from her car, tackled her to the ground, put their,

1:10.7

the ice agent put his knee on her neck, even as she's

1:14.1

screaming, I'm not resisting.

1:17.4

She's basically saying she's a U.S. citizen.

1:20.1

They took her away.

1:21.2

Her parents don't know where she is for hours.

1:24.3

And then she has to present her papers and she's let go.

1:28.5

And this has happened multiple times all over the place, not to mention that they use excessive

1:33.2

force, tear gas, you know, where kids are located.

1:38.1

They're, you know, Halloween's coming up.

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