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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Raj M. Shah & Christopher Kirchhoff (on the military-industrial complex)

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Umbrella

Tv & Film, Music, Comedy

4.668.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2024

⏱️ 123 minutes

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Summary

Raj M. Shah is a technology entrepreneur, venture capitalist, and former director of the Pentagon’s Defense Innovation Unit. Christopher Kirchhoff is an expert in emerging technology and founder of the Pentagon’s Silicon Valley office. Raj and Christopher join the Armchair Expert to discuss how to reduce the risk of great power wars, the discrepancy between the private sector and military technologies, and how investing in military technology helps to maintain peace. Raj and Christopher talk about the resistance to changing defense policy, how drones are influencing military strategy, and what checks and balances exist in most military contracts. Raj and Christopher explain how US military technology is at risk of falling behind other countries’ innovations, what government bureaucratic roadblocks exist in developing new tech, and the optimism around young engineers solving the problems in military defense. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome, welcome welcome to armchair expert experts on experts. I'm Dan Shepard and I'm joined by Monica Padman.

0:06.3

Hello. Hello. We have a very unique topic we've never covered in the past. It involves war in the military. We have Raj M. Shaw and

0:16.6

Christopher Kirtjov. Raj is a serial technology entrepreneur of venture

0:21.3

capitalist and a former director of the Pentagon's Defense Innovation

0:25.0

Unit.

0:26.0

And Christopher Kirchhoff is an expert in emerging technology and he helped create the Defense

0:30.3

Innovation Unit, which he continues to advise for.

0:33.2

So their book, which they have out now,

0:35.4

is called Unit X, how the Pentagon and Silicon

0:38.1

Valley are transforming the future of war.

0:40.3

These two lay out an assessment of how insanely out of date most of our military stuff is.

0:48.8

Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

0:50.6

Yeah, there's some shocking incidents where you're like, that can't be true.

0:55.0

There can't be a several hundred million dollar plane with the operating system

0:58.6

100 times slower than an iPhone, and yet it is. So this was fascinating to me. Please enjoy Raj and Christopher.

1:05.6

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