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Religion on the Mind

Raising Spiritually Healthy Kids (#301)

Religion on the Mind

Religion on the Mind

Religion & Spirituality, Religion, Spirituality

4.7542 Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2024

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Jon Ogden, co-founder of Uplift Kids, joined me to talk about navigating spiritual parenting in ways that prevent religious trauma. As a father of two young children, and someone who frequently references Dr. Lisa Miller's research on child spirituality and mental health, I was particularly interested in Uplift's approach. Jon explained their model of combining internal guidance with modern science and ancient wisdom from a variety of traditions, moving beyond simplistic "follow your heart" messaging. We explored how parents can't simply transfer their mature spiritual understanding to children, who must undergo their own developmental journey. I found their developmentally-appropriate framework promising for helping children build a foundation that can withstand future questioning without causing a spiritual crisis. Our patron-only segment covered post-secularism, concerning trends in youth meaninglessness, and the importance of balanced virtue ethics. Want to try Uplift for your family? Join here to get a two-week trial and use code PERMISSION to let them know I sent you. Highlights: 02:59 The Role of Spirituality in Child Development 12:00 The Process of Spiritual Development 18:13 The Inner Compass: Guiding Children in Life ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

What I've dedicated my life to is revenge.

0:04.7

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0:07.5

They think they're better than us.

0:08.5

Who do you think you are?

0:09.8

I'm going to prove to them that they're wrong.

0:11.5

She's punishing me.

0:13.0

You destroyed my family.

0:14.3

I will not rest until I've destroyed yours.

0:17.0

A woman of substance on Channel 4 starts tonight at 9.

0:24.1

Welcome back to You Have Permission, the show that aims to take both Christianity and the modern world of science and culture very seriously.

0:31.4

My name's Dan Koch.

0:32.5

I'm a licensed therapist and a post-evangelical liberal Christian trying to figure out how exactly to raise my boys

0:40.8

with some kind of Christian faith. A lot of listeners with kids are not necessarily concerned

0:47.1

with specifically Christianity, but are nonetheless quite interested in, man, some of this whole religious upbringing seems to be

0:56.3

really helpful for kids, but I don't want the baggage. Well, enter for you, dear listener,

1:02.3

uplift kids represented today by John Ogden. John, thanks so much for being here.

1:07.7

Yeah, thanks for having me. That's kind of where I would put your guys's work for parents

1:12.4

who want to sort of encourage and intentionally grow their kids' spirituality as well as maybe

1:18.6

like kind of classic values and virtues, but without specific doctrine or dogma attached to it.

1:25.7

Is that a pretty good sort of pitch for where your guys'

1:28.9

stuff falls? Yeah, it is. And so a family could integrate it with their Christian faith if they

1:34.5

wanted to and they could be actively attending church and integrate the stuff that they're

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