There's a better way to do this.

Let me show you a better way.

And we are live in, by some stretch of luck actually on time.

I had some delays this morning.

But we are going to have a great show today.

We're kind of continuing our Meet the Expert Council series.

This time with a good friend of mine, and he and his wife are good friends with Dorothy and I.

Joel Riles is going to be on again.

I think I first had Joel Riles on is going to be on again. I think I

think I first had Joel Riles on the show over a decade ago. I think about 10 years. I know they

were still living in Alaska, if that date said it all for him. He's waiting on us in the green

room right now. And we've had a lot of great discussions with Joel. I love Joel because we share

some common interests. One is building businesses and two is dogs. We have different approaches to dogs.

Like I like my kind of homestead dog and he trains these awesome protection dogs, but dogs are

dogs, man.

And we've hung out a lot.

We've probably drank more alcohol together than we should.

We've smoked a cigar or two together.

He is a great guy.

He brings a lot to the

table teaching dog training as a core, but also business building and resiliency, and has an

incredible outlook toward freedom and liberty as well. So he's a good friend to the show, good

...