Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each weekday we bring you a meditation inspired

by the ancient Stoics, a short passage of ancient wisdom designed to help you find strength

and insight here in everyday life.

And on Wednesdays, we talk to some of our fellow students of ancient philosophy, well-known

and obscure, fascinating, and powerful.

With them, we discuss the strategies and habits that have helped them become who they are

and also to find peace and wisdom in their actual lives.

But first, we've got a quick message from one of our sponsors.

Hey, it's Ryan Holiday, welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast.

As I finished this interview, I stepped outside and my wife was there and she was like,

how did it go?

How did it go?

I recorded it remote, but it was sort of a big moment for both of us because it was sort

of unbelievable to think that I would ever interview this person, I'm not going to talk much

about his prior work because we're in the middle of an actor and writer's strike, which

I very much want to respect, but I also was very excited to have him on because I understand

that he is more than just an actor.

You would know him from one of the greatest television roles of all time, one of the greatest

television shows of all time, The Office.

He plays Dwight Shrut, plays it perfectly classic, always funny, and actually right around

the time my wife and I met, I remember hanging out with friends watching The Office as it

came out on television like that night because this is a time when there was still something

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