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on a regular podcast it's great to do that it's great to do. It's great to finally get this together.

Finally, I mean, what do we do like two of them together like three years ago?

Now finally we get their real thing?

Yeah, we've tried and tried and

tried and for the people who are going to see the finished product you haven't

seen the hell that we have walked through just to get to this point in recording and

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