Radosław Sikorski, Foreign Minister of Poland: Dealing with the growing threat from Russia
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🗓️ 13 May 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
Kasia Madera speaks to Radosław Sikorski, the Foreign Minister of Poland.
As a key, long-term ally to Ukraine, Poland has played a pivotal role in supporting its neighbour following the full-scale invasion by Russia in 2022.
Mr Sikorski talks about the growing threat Poland, as well as Europe, faces from Russia, and follows his country’s decision to close the Russian consulate in Krakow.
The move was made in response to a shopping centre fire in Warsaw last year, that Poland blames on Moscow. The Kremlin has dismissed the accusation as completely without foundation - it accuses Poland of hostility, and describes relations between the countries as deplorable.
Mr Sikorski also gives his take on the prospect of a lasting ceasefire in Ukraine, the involvement of the US President Donald Trump, and the future of NATO.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Kashimadira, presenter on the BBC News Channel, and this is the interview from the BBC World Service. |
| 0:06.7 | The best conversations coming out of the BBC, people shaping our world from all over the world. |
| 0:13.7 | I will come back to Russia. I will participate in the elections. |
| 0:19.4 | There's an increase in violence according to the coca crop. |
| 0:23.4 | There is no place in the world where women are equal. |
| 0:25.7 | I will give away the vast majority of my money and it's my full-time focus for the rest of my life. |
| 0:33.2 | For this interview, I met Radoswav Shikorsky, Poland's foreign minister. |
| 0:37.9 | You're going to hear about Poland's decision to close a Russian consulate in the southern city of Krakow, |
| 0:44.1 | after claiming Russia was behind a huge fire in a Warsaw shopping centre last year. |
| 0:49.5 | The allegation has been dismissed by Moscow as completely without foundation. |
| 0:55.9 | It accuses Poland of hostility and describes relations between the countries as deplorable. As a key ally to Ukraine, Poland |
| 1:02.6 | has played a pivotal role in supporting its neighbour following the full-scale invasion by Russia in |
| 1:08.0 | 2022. Tensions between Poland and Russia have been high since then, with these |
| 1:13.2 | latest events ratcheting them up even further. And Poland, he tells me, is all too aware of the danger |
| 1:19.8 | posed by Russia. We are spending 4.7% of our GDP on defence. We have the largest land army in the European |
| 1:26.9 | Union. And within our defence budget, we have the largest land army in the European Union. And within our |
| 1:28.4 | defence budget, we have the largest proportion that is spent on new equipment. And we will continue |
| 1:33.3 | to do that until we are sure we can deter Putin. We've learned over 500 years that when the Russians |
| 1:39.9 | threaten us, you have to take it seriously. Mr. Shikorsky also gives me his take on the prospect of a |
| 1:46.2 | lasting ceasefire in Ukraine, the involvement of the U.S. President Donald Trump, and also on the future |
| 1:52.4 | of NATO. Welcome to the interview from the BBC World Service with Radoslav Shikorsky. |
| 2:00.7 | It's important to remember that Russia's hybrid war on the West |
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