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Woman's Hour

Radioactive chapatis, Hostage negotiation, Non-birth mothers, Japanese women in politics

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

In 1969, migration to the UK was increasing with Britain becoming home for thousands of foreign settlers. In Coventry, 21 women of Indian origin booked what were supposed to be routine appointments with their local GP. Little did they know that these appointments would result in them becoming subjects of a controversial medical experiment, in which they were given chapatis laced with radioactive components. Over the next 50 years, memories of the experiment have continued to resurface as campaigners, such as Labour MP Taiwo Owatemi, try to track down participants and their families whilst calling on Parliament to open an inquiry into the findings.

Nicky Perfect knows what it’s like to live much of her life on high alert. From joining the police at the age of 18, working in the Met Police Firearms unit to eventually joining the elite New Scotland Yard Hostage and Crisis Negotiation Unit. She’s brought people safely down from rooftop stand-offs, worked to resolve gang kidnappings and terrorist incidents. Now she’s written about her experiences in Crisis: True stories of my life as a hostage negotiator.

Listener Carla Mercer contacted Woman’s Hour asking for a discussion on parenting from the perspective of a non-birth mother in a single-sex relationship. She is the non-birth mother to her seven-year-old daughter and five-year-old twin boys. She is separated from her ex-partner who is the children’s birth mother. Author and journalist, Lotte Jeffs is the “other mother” to a four-year-old girl with her wife, who gave birth to their daughter. She is co-author of The Queer Parent: Everything You Need to Know From Gay to Ze.

Political parties in Japan are boosting their support to get more women into office. The country’s ruling party and opposition party are both offering financial incentives- pledging a million Japanese Yen, about £5400, in aid for each new female candidate. And many would say the country sorely needs more women in politics- with the World Economic Forum showing only 10% of the country’s parliamentary positions are held by women. Rei Murakami is the President of the Murakami Foundation, and has set up a politics training school with this goal in mind. Hanako Montgomery is a Tokyo-based journalist.

Presenter: Nuala McGovern Producer: Kirsty Starkey

Opener 00:00 Radioactive Chapatis 02:12 Nicky Perfect 12:16 Women on Wheels 30:20 Non-Birth Mothers 35:44 Japanese Women in Politics 46:45

Transcript

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0:00.0

Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to introduce myself.

0:03.7

My name's Stevie Middleton and I'm a BBC Commissioner for a Load of Sport Podcasts.

0:08.4

I'm lucky to do that at the BBC because I get to work with a leading journalist, experienced

0:12.2

pundits and the biggest sport stars.

0:14.3

Together we bring you untold stories and fascinating insights straight from the players'

0:18.5

mouths.

0:19.5

But the best thing about doing this at the BBC is our unique access to the sport in world.

0:25.0

What that means is that we can bring you podcasts that create a real connection to

0:28.8

dedicated sports fans across the UK.

0:31.4

So if you like this podcast, head over to BBC Sounds where you'll find plenty more.

0:35.7

Hello, this is Nulem O'Govern and you're listening to the Woman's Hour podcast.

0:40.4

How are your negotiating skills this morning?

0:43.8

Maybe you've already had to negotiate who got to use the bathroom first for that morning

0:47.5

shower or maybe you were getting tired, toddlers to eat what you made for breakfast?

0:53.2

Maybe later today you have to negotiate with your boss about your workload.

0:56.8

Well, there have been many awkward situations I'm sure throughout your life that you've

1:01.4

had to negotiate your way in or out of.

1:04.0

And we have a woman today hostage negotiator, Nikki Perfect, who will be joining me in

1:08.4

studio to talk about her work.

1:10.7

She has spent much of her life in highly fraught and dangerous situations negotiating

1:15.9

among other things, gang kidnappings and terrorist incidents.

1:20.1

But on every day level, I want to hear from you about your best negotiating skills.

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