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The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

Radio Show: The Death of Value Investing | #59

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

The Idea Farm

Management, Investing, Business

4.8978 Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2017

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Episode 59 is a radio show format. This week we're diving into some of the recent market stories which Meb has found most interesting. We also bring back some listener Q&A. We start with a Tweet from Cliff Asness, in which he rebuffs a Bloomberg article titled, "The Death of Value Investing." The article states that value isn't working. Sticking to that approach has resulted in a cumulative loss of 15 percent over the past decade, according to a Goldman Sachs Group Inc. report. During roughly the same period, the S&P 500 Index has almost doubled." So is value investing dead? Meb gives us his thoughts. We discuss its underperformance, mean reversion, and factor-crowding. Next up is a New York Times article referencing a recent stance-reversal from Burt Malkiel, a passive investing legend. He's now saying he recognizes where active investing can exploit certain market inefficiencies. The same article has some great quotes from Rob Arnott on the topic of factor investing, and the danger in tons of quants all looking at the same data and trading on it. Meb gives us his thoughts on factor timing and rotation, using trend with factors, and the behavioral challenges involved in both. Another Arnott quote steers the conversation toward backtesting - the pitfalls to avoid when backtesting, so you don't create a strategy that looks brilliant in hindsight, but is hideous going forward. Next up are some listener questions: I still can't wrap my head around how to use commodities in a portfolio. The Ivy Portfolio promotes putting 20% in a broad commodity index, but in the podcast, I've heard you discuss the financialization of commodities futures leading to loss of roll yield. So what's the answer here? Include commodities as an inflation hedge but be prepared to pay the price of long term drag? Or forget about commodities and just focus on stocks/bonds/real estate? Please explain the difference between the unadvised practice of performance chasing and the highly encouraged practice of momentum investing. I would like to know your thoughts on implementing lifecycle glidepaths for an individual or clients' portfolio. Your quant-style approach looks at risk a lot different than most, but I do see value in reducing portfolio risk as you come closer to withdrawing the money - the question is which risk, or what approach do you use to reduce the risk? Regarding your trinity style approach, does that mean reducing from a Trinity 5 to a Trinity 3 (for example) a couple years prior to retirement? There's plenty more - including our new partnership with Riskalyze, which enables advisors to allocate client assets into Trinity portfolios. But the more interesting story is how Meb gave his wife food-poisoning the other night. How'd he do it? Find out in Episode 59.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Mebb Favor Show, where the focus is on helping you grow and preserve your wealth.

0:12.4

Join us as we discuss the craft of investing. helping you grow and preserve your wealth.

0:12.6

Join us as we discuss the craft of investing

0:15.5

and uncover new and profitable ideas,

0:18.2

all to help you grow wealthier and wiser.

0:20.7

Better investing starts here.

0:23.0

Meep Baber is the co-founder and chief investment officer, Cambria Investment Management.

0:31.0

Due to industry regulations, he will not discuss any of Cambria's funds on this podcast.

0:36.8

All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not reflect

0:41.3

the opinion of Cambria Investment Management or its

0:43.6

affiliates. For more information visit cambria Investments.com.

0:49.4

Welcome to a summertime podcast sitting here with co-host and podcast show producer Jeff. Welcome Jeff.

0:58.0

Hey, what's happening? Not much. Winding down, getting ready to have my birthday here in about a week.

1:04.0

Thank you very little. Thank you very little.

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Thank you very little.

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What are we doing for it?

1:08.0

Is that Chevy Chase line?

1:09.0

What is that from?

1:10.0

Fletch.

1:11.0

Let's see if we can pull up the video for that. I don't know what I'm going to do for it. Hide in a dark closet.

1:17.0

Avoid. I love birthdays. Listeners, if you want to send me a birthday present, feel free.

1:22.0

Are you willing to reveal

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