And it's very, very common for people to leave a religion like Mormonism and then sort of just be the flip side of the same coin, which is now anything that beforehand, most Mormons like me, anything that said that's positive about the church, any kind of faith promoting rumor that's floating around out there, I'm going to latch onto, and I'm going

to make that part of my testimony, being extremely uncritical of the source, but simply because

it's what I want to believe. It's what supports my belief. And sometimes if we're not careful,

when we flip out of Mormonism, we can just be flipping over a coin. Welcome, everyone.

I've got RFM here with me and I'm really excited to have a conversation with Radio Free Mormon.

So welcome.

Are you so excited to be here?

I'm, excuse me, that was a terrible start.

Yeah, I'm very excited to be here. Thank you. It's a Friday morning. It's early and there's no place I'd rather be than on this podcast. Where will you go?

Oh, thanks. You're such a good liar. All right. This is where I want to go. It's on your podcast. Good. Good. So I thought it would be fun. You're a man of many projects. So I thought it would be fun for you to just tell everybody what all of the projects that you're working on. So you've got your radio free Mormon and you got your Shakespeare stuff like I just just give listeners uh all the things that

you work on sure thing uh first off is the radio free Mormon the flagship station which I started

back in October of 2016 so in October that'll be eight years, believe it or not. Then there's

Mormonism Live, which I've been doing with Bill Real for going on four years now. We're in our

fourth year of production of that. Then, and December, I think it was of last year. We started up

another panel show. It was a live show called the Mormon newscast that airs at what.

It's Monday evening, 5 o'clock Pacific, 6 o'clock mountain.

And then I went ahead and at the beginning of the year,

I did something really, really dumb,

which is I gave myself two additional weekly podcasts to do.

On top of the Mormonism Live live which is weekly every Wednesday the Mormon newscast which is weekly every Monday radio free Mormon which I try and do a

weekly podcast on I added two more one of which was Mormon Sunday school and that was a weekly

and brush up your Shakespeare.

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