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broadcasting behind enemy lines Tonight's episode is a discussion between myself and Bill Reel on a talk given by Henry J. I. Ring.

Now this is Henry J. I. Ring. It's not President I ring. It is his son. Henry

J I ring who is a president but he's not in the presidency of the church. He is

the president of BYU church. He is the president of BYU Idaho and on September 18th 2018 he gave a

remarkable talk to the student body of BYU Idaho titled Gaining and Strengthening a

testimony and this talk has at least two things in it that I find extremely problematic if it had only one of these two things

it would have been worth discussing with you Bill Reel but two makes it irresistible as far as commenting on.

So I'm very glad that you're with me tonight talking about this particular speech by

Henry J. Iring.

Grateful to be here, RFM.

The thing I would say just to set up as we go into this would be that here's a man who is a president of higher an

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