Testing 1, 2, 3. Testing 1, 2, 3. This is radio free Mormon on the air broadcasting

behind enemy lines. Tonight's episode we have with us in studio or at least in another

state appearing on the same screen with me. The one the only carry shirts also known

as the backyard professor. I'm not sure people may know you better by the backyard professor

than carry shirts. Carry, welcome on the show. Well, thank you RFM. I'm really happy to

be here. This will be a lot of fun, I think. Well, I just want to give folks a brief

understanding of who you are in case they don't know. But you have been historically a

monumental force in Mormon apologetics, particularly with the book of Abraham. Now, don't

shake your head at me young man. You know what I'm saying is true. We can all see you.

Okay. So anyway, no, this is true. Carry has gone on to do a number of videos that were

put up on YouTube by you about book of Mormon and book of Abraham apologetics under the

title, the backyard professor. And what has happened is that he was also one of those

who was instrumental. Actually, one of the founders of the foundation for apologetic information

and research, which is what it was originally known by, but fair, the apologetic, the Mormon

apologetic website and information site. He was one of the founders of that and he'll

tell us about that story. And he will also tell us stories about people that he knows

who are associated with fair and Mormon apologetics, people including Daniel C. Peterson, people

including John G, people including Matt Roper, people including John Twetness, people including

Russell McGregor. And some are all of these people you may know, but if you don't by the

end of this program, you will through the stories that carry shirts is going to tell us

about those experiences. So having said, oh, and what the other thing is is that carry

shirts is gone from being a very ardent and passionate defender of Mormonism to becoming

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