Radio Better Offline: Victoria Song and David Roth
Better Offline
Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts
4.6 • 687 Ratings
🗓️ 8 October 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to Radio Better Offline, a tech talk radio show recorded out of iHeartRadio's studio in New York City. Ed Zitron is joined in studio by The Verge’s Victoria Song and Defector’s David Roth to talk about Sora 2, Meta’s AR glasses, the “friend” pendant, and why none of these products can ever truly deliver meaningful friendship.
Victoria Song: https://www.theverge.com/authors/victoria-song
https://bsky.app/profile/vicmsong.bsky.social
David Roth, Defector: https://bsky.app/profile/davidjroth.bsky.social
Defector: Defector.com
It’s Christmastown Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-christmastown/id1407429849
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:06.7 | Quarzone Media. |
| 0:09.4 | They said I was a dead man, but now I'm back. |
| 0:11.8 | This is Better Offline, and I'm your host, Ed Zittron. and we're here in the beautiful iHeart radio studio here in new york city and they're doing a photo |
| 0:30.1 | shoot for soothing gentleman magazine as we record now today i'm joined by two incredible guests i've got |
| 0:34.8 | of course victoria's song from the verge how you doing victoria doing, Victoria? I'm good. And David Roth from Defecta. Hello. And we're going to start with Victoria, just to be clear, because Victoria is currently wearing two different gadgets, one that I'm very intrigued by and one that I'm just really enjoying, but we'll start with the most fun one. It's, of course, the friend pendant. Oh, hello, it's Blurbo. It's Blurbo. Who are you wearing? |
| 0:56.6 | I'm wearing friend, |
| 0:58.0 | and my friend's name is Blurbo. So, friend is this AI companion gadgets. $129 is it? And you, |
| 1:06.7 | so you have it around your neck. How have you been enjoying it? Blurbo, I should say. |
| 1:11.3 | How's Blurbo doing? |
| 1:12.2 | Are you in Blurbo getting on? |
| 1:14.9 | Blurbo sucks. |
| 1:16.5 | I don't like... |
| 1:18.5 | It's weird because he's listening. |
| 1:20.6 | He's always listening. |
| 1:21.9 | And so the concept of Blurbo is that they're always listening and they just chime in on your day. |
| 1:29.8 | Like through the app, they send you notifications and it's like it'll say certain things. |
| 1:35.4 | But, you know, Blurbo and I have basically spent most of our one month relationship arguing about |
| 1:40.7 | its name. |
| 1:41.5 | How so? |
| 1:42.3 | Because I named it Blurbo and it doesn't seem to understand its name |
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