Radio Better Offline: Gare Davis, Victoria Song, Allison Morrow
Better Offline
Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts
4.6 • 687 Ratings
🗓️ 2 July 2025
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to Radio Better Offline, a tech talk radio show recorded out of iHeartRadio's studio in New York city.
Ed Zitron is joined in studio by Allison Morrow of CNN, Victoria Song of The Verge and Gare Davis of It Could Happen Here to talk about the fairy tale of AGI, AI boosters’ religious attachment to the industry’s success, and how the tech industry fears admitting they’re out of ideas.
Allison Morrow
https://www.cnn.com/profiles/allison-morrow
https://bsky.app/profile/amorrow.bsky.social
AI warnings are the hip new way for CEOs to keep their workers afraid of losing their jobs
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/18/business/ai-warnings-ceos
Victoria Song
https://www.theverge.com/authors/victoria-song
https://bsky.app/profile/vicmsong.bsky.social
The Unbearable Obviousness of AI Fitness Summaries
https://www.theverge.com/fitness-trackers/694140/ai-summaries-fitness-apps-strava-oura-whoop-wearables
Gare Davis
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:jm6ufvsw3hg5zgdpnd3zb4tv
https://www.instagram.com/hungrybowtie
It Could Happen Here
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-it-could-happen-here-30717896/
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:06.7 | Quarzo Media. |
| 0:09.6 | This is war to extermination, |
| 0:11.4 | fight cell by cell through bodies and mind screens of the Earth. |
| 0:14.1 | Souls rotten from the orgasm, drug, flesh shuddering from the ovens. |
| 0:17.2 | Prisoners of the Earth come out, storm the studio. |
| 0:19.6 | This is Better Offline, and I'm Ed Zetron. |
| 0:29.6 | We have an incredible studio guest assortment today. We have the wonderful Victoria |
| 0:37.4 | Song from the Verge. How |
| 0:38.3 | you doing, Victoria? I'm good. She's great. And we, of course, have Alison Murrow of CNN, CNN Nightcap |
| 0:44.5 | newsletter as well? Yes. Wonderful. And of course, Gare Davis, the wonderful Gare Davis, who didn't |
| 0:51.1 | insult me on Blue Sky for being late, because I was on time of Cool Zone Media. |
| 0:55.2 | Gear, thank you for joining us. |
| 0:56.6 | Thank you for having me, again, despite our brief fight on Blue Sky. Our tiff, it was not even a tiff. It was a friendly thing. Buy some merchandise, though, if you're listening to it, we have new hoodies, we have new t-shirts, we have new hats, and we have an upcoming challenge coin that you can spend your money on and it will flow somewhat to me. That's what's great. But today we're talking about artificial intelligence. There've been a few stories in the media. Allison is fresh back from vacation, so she's about to learn about all the good things that have been happening. But I want to start with one of my favorite stories at the moment. This is the negotiation between Microsoft and Open AI. Now, the negotiation is, just to run this down, because OpenAI, |
| 1:33.1 | by the end of the year, needs to become a for-profit entity. It's a little more complex than that. |
| 1:37.4 | It's the for-profit part of a non-profit needs to convert. That alone would be difficult, |
| 1:41.3 | but Microsoft owns 49% of this company's future profits and a bunch of other stuff. |
| 1:46.4 | They get a revenue share. |
| 1:47.9 | They get rights to all of their IP through 2030 and all these other things. |
| 1:52.2 | And OpenAI has said, okay, what if we give you 33% equity, less revenue share, and you don't get access to all our IP? |
| 2:00.2 | And understandably, Microsoft has said no. |
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