Radio Better Offline: Edward Ongweso Jr. & Allison Morrow
Better Offline
Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts
4.6 • 687 Ratings
🗓️ 17 September 2025
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to Radio Better Offline, a tech talk radio show recorded out of iHeartRadio's studio in New York City. Ed Zitron is joined in studio by Allison Morrow of CNN, Ed Ongweso Jr. of the Tech Bubble newsletter to talk about the AI vibe shift, OpenAI’s burn rate, what will finally burst the bubble, and something called “Critterz.”
Allison Morrow
https://www.cnn.com/profiles/allison-morrow
https://bsky.app/profile/amorrow.bsky.social
Ed Ongweso Jr.
https://thetechbubble.substack.com/
https://bsky.app/profile/edwardongwesojr.com
OpenAI Hopes Animated 'Critterz' Will Prove AI Is Ready for the Big Screen - https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/openai-hopes-animated-critterz-will-prove-ai-is-ready-for-the-big-screen/
The AI vibe shift is upon us - https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/22/business/ai-vibe-shift-nightcap
The Silicon Valley Consensus & the "AI Economy" - https://thetechbubble.substack.com/p/the-silicon-valley-consensus-and-614
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed human. |
| 0:06.7 | Quarzo Media. |
| 0:09.3 | Hello and welcome to Better Offline. |
| 0:11.1 | I'm your host, Ed Zichron. |
| 0:16.0 | Better Offline. And we are recording here in beautiful New York City. |
| 0:26.2 | And I have a wonderful pair of guests today. |
| 0:28.2 | I've had, of course, Alison Morrow from CNN Nightcap newsletter and Edward |
| 0:32.8 | Anguoso Jr. |
| 0:34.3 | The Hater himself from the Tech Bubble newsletter. |
| 0:37.2 | Thank you so much for joining me today. |
| 0:39.3 | Great to be here as always. |
| 0:40.3 | Thanks for happening. |
| 0:41.3 | So I think we should start with exactly what we were just talking about. |
| 0:44.3 | The Open AI claims that they have worked out what causes hallucinations. |
| 0:47.3 | Alison, do you want to go over this? |
| 0:49.3 | I should have read the paper a bit more carefully, but I can, you know, the highlights were getting digested yesterday on X and Blue Sky. And it seems like it's kind of the test taking problem of when |
| 1:02.4 | you encourage students, when they're taking standardized tests, and you don't know the answer, |
| 1:06.5 | you guess. And that's exactly how these models are trained. And they don't, you don't get a point if you say, |
| 1:12.6 | I don't know. Right. So you come up with something. And the models are meant to keep guessing until they |
| 1:20.8 | get something close to right. Right. So that's why you get a lot of nonsense and hallucinations. And Open AI, at least in their reading of it, says, oh, this is a simple solution. |
| 1:32.8 | We'll just encourage the models to understand better when it's like a binary question. |
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