“Racy Conversations” with Karen Fleshman
Directionally Challenged
Kayla Ewell
4.9 • 4.3K Ratings
🗓️ 15 June 2020
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Trigger Warning: Sexual Assault
The inspiring Karen Fleshman joins us this week to talk about race, parenting, and educating people in the workplace.
Find Karen:
Book: https://www.amazon.com/White-Women-We-Need-Talk/dp/1683645685
Website: http://racyconversations.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/FleshmanKaren
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RacyConversations/
Books Mentioned:
“White Rage:” https://www.amazon.com/White-Rage-Unspoken-Racial-Divide/dp/1536667471book
“When They Call You A Terrorist:”
https://www.amazon.com/When-They-Call-You-Terrorist/dp/1250171083
“This Book is Anti-Racist:”
https://www.amazon.com/This-Book-Anti-Racist-lessons-action/dp/0711245215
“Stamped:”
https://www.amazon.com/Stamped-Antiracism-National-Award-winning-Beginning/dp/0316453692
Other Mentions and Articles:
Podcast on Karen: https://raceconvo.com/karen-controversy/
White People How to Show Up RN: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/white-people-how-show-up-rn-karen-fleshman-esq-she-her/
How Mothers Talk to Our Kids About Race: https://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/moms-talking-kids-race-us-learning-71104711
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| 0:00.0 | Directly church. |
| 0:02.0 | Directly church. |
| 0:04.0 | Directly church. |
| 0:06.0 | Hey, it's Candice King and Kayla Uel and we are directionally challenged. |
| 0:13.0 | Yes, we thought we would have everything figured out by the time we were in our 30s. |
| 0:18.7 | And we don't. |
| 0:19.7 | We really don't and we're learning that day by day. |
| 0:24.0 | Today is Tuesday, June 9th. |
| 0:26.3 | We've been happening and still are happening in Los Angeles where Candice and I live and all over the world. |
| 0:34.3 | There are so many emotions happening within me personally. |
| 0:40.3 | I think it's so important for us to sit down and have this conversation. |
| 0:44.3 | Candice, I'm so happy to have this conversation with you. |
| 0:47.3 | And I know how important this is for us to have with our listeners as well. |
| 0:52.3 | It's something we haven't really discussed on our podcast and we now know this is something we want to continue to discuss. |
| 1:01.3 | Every time I start to have a conversation about this, the biggest pit is in my stomach. |
| 1:06.3 | And it's not just an emotional reaction. |
| 1:09.3 | It's a physical reaction. |
| 1:10.3 | It's a mental reaction. |
| 1:11.3 | This is something that is so long overdue and something that is affecting all of us. |
| 1:19.3 | It's a empathy that you and I have for all the conversations you and I have been able to have over the last week, two weeks. |
| 1:29.3 | I can't believe I've accepted the fact that this idea that it was not my place to discuss racism in this country. |
| 1:41.3 | And I was so ill equipped to have any conversations about my white privilege, about racism, addressing racism. |
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