If you've ever run a little further or pushed a little harder while the song Fight

Song was playing, you are in great company. For nearly a decade, singer and songwriter Rachel

Platten has used her voice to lift people up. Fight song? It's been an anthem for

listeners as they've fought through their own battles, inspiring all of us to find strength from within.

But despite being known for one of the most empowering songs of all time, Rachel has lived through

her own struggles with depression, anxiety, and moments of

self-doubt. Now, also a mom and a mental health advocate, Rachel's back with a fresh

perspective and new music using that bold, beautiful voice in a brand new way. She's marking the

next chapter in her life and in her career with her latest album.

I am Rachel Platten.

And today, we talk about what motivates her to keep getting back up and staying in the fight.

Just like Rachel sings, she's still got a lot of fight left in her.

I'm Hoda Kotfi.

Welcome to my podcast, Making Space.

Yeah. I'm Hoda Kotthi, welcome to my podcast, Making Space. First of all, hi.

Hi, congratulations on the new album.

Thank you so much.

I feel like we're getting into the fall, and it's like time to turn pages.

Like summer's had its season, and now we're turning. And I feel like in life,

we're constantly flipping pages from our kids' baby years to their next one. And then all

a sudden you kind of say goodbye to that phase. So for you, I feel like, let's talk musically first.

You've turned a page and you're entering kind of different waters. So tell me about this new

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