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guests in all of true crime and it feels like we were just together.

We were just covering the Michelle Traconis trial together.

It just convened, court did, it adjourned, I should say, at 445 PM Eastern time. And here we are back with a very important story and before I get going I saw him in the

chat so special shout out to a Matt McMahon for helping facilitate this. He is the father of Rachel's oldest child, Rachel

Morin, and we are going to actually hear from, we are going to hear from her tonight thanks to Tim Papa one of our

guests for the very first time ever except the fact that Tim had it on his YouTube channel last night so

almost ever it's been more than five months this murder happened back on August

5th I on August 5th, I believe, August 5th.

I double check that.

It's either of the 5th of the 6th.

But it's been more than five months, nevertheless,

since a Maryland mother of five was murdered brutally murdered on a hiking

trail in Maryland it is known as the Ma and Pa Trail the Hartford County

Sheriff Gailer has come out and said that the death was quote unquote a violent homicide.

The family, Rachel has a very big family, an extended family, and they need everyone's help to catch the killer.

This story was making headlines day and day out back in August, and is often the case as I can attest to as a

former media guy it starts to go cold there's no killer caught the days pass they turn into weeks the weeks turn into months and suddenly the media retreats

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