Hey y'all. I'm Ashanti Golar, host of the Brown Girls Guide to Politics.

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This season, we're getting deep into the details of Project 2025.

In 900-plus pages, it's proposing dramatic conservative changes to education,

health care, and foreign affairs. But underpinning it all is an entirely new vision for how

the government operates, and that could change everything. Thank you so much to our friends

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your podcast. Welcome back, Brown Girls. Ashanti here, the founder of the Brown Girls Guide to Politics, and this episode we're speaking to the BGG blog contributor and co-founder of Indigenous Women Rising, Rachel Lorenzo.

Fans of the BGGG blog are familiar with Rachel's posts about her fight to make politics and the reproductive freedom movement more inclusive of women like her, young indigenous queer mothers.

In our interview, we talk about how she got started in politics with the help of women like Congresswoman Deb Holland and the work ahead for her at Indigenous Women Rising.

I hope you enjoy. Rachel, it's so great to have you on the podcast. How are you? Doing well. Thank you so

much for including me or for thinking of me. So what I want to start with is when we have guests on,

I always look at their bios to see, well, what are they saying about themselves? And in your

bio, you state, Rachel was not only raised on traditional values, but also on politics. And I love

that. And it really intrigued me because we still hear so many people

say that we didn't talk about politics in my house. But for you, you're saying this is something

that you're raised on. So tell us more about that. Yeah. So my dad worked for the Bureau of Indian Affairs,

which is under the Department of Interior for about 15 years and worked for the Bureau of Indian Affairs, which is under the Department of Interior for about

15 years and worked for tribal government before that. My mother was a social worker, so very much

entrenched in tribal politics. And ever since I was a little girl, I can remember being six and sitting down with my parents and watching the presidential debates.

So growing up, having that variety of politics in my household, whether it was my parents talking to each other at dinner time, having the news on in the background,

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