Race and Wokeness in America (Robert Wright & Coleman Hughes)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7 • 618 Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

01:25 Coleman’s definition of “wokeness”—and why he’s against it 13:07 Poverty or privilege: Which predicts wokeness among black Americans? 22:46 How much progress has America made since Jim Crow? 32:17 Why writers in particular are haunted by their past 41:59 How racists and criminals are made 51:25 Does "hip-hop culture exist"—and is it bad? 1:02:22 Coleman diversifies his controversy portfolio

Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Coleman Hughes (Conversations with Coleman). Recorded February 14, 2023.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.
0:07.8	Hi, Coleman.
0:09.4	Hey, Bob.
0:10.5	How you doing?
0:11.5	Good.
0:11.9	How are you?
0:12.6	I can't complain.
0:13.5	Let me introduce this.
0:14.3	I'm Robert Wright, publisher of Non-Zero newsletter.
0:17.0	You're Coleman Hughes, a very young but very accomplished writer and podcaster. And it turns out
0:24.1	hip hop artists, we're going to, we'll talk a little about a new album you've got out. Um, so you've written
0:31.9	for the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and so on. Your podcast is called Conversations with Coleman.
0:36.9	Your substack.
0:39.1	It's called Coleman's Corner.
0:41.2	So we got plenty of alliteration going on in your life, which is good.
0:46.2	And I wanted to start out by asking.
0:51.3	I mean, first of all, I can tell just, you know, by perusing your podcast,
0:56.0	your podcast that, you know, you have broad ranging intellectual interests, but you kind of burst
1:04.6	on the scene a few years ago in the context of a specific set of issues with a specific kind of ideological angle. And I wanted to ask you, is it fair to call your ideology anti-woke, or is that too simple?
1:22.8	That's not the sum total of my ideology, but that's certainly a position that I am comfortable being
1:29.7	labeled as. Yeah, I do consider myself anti-woke under my definition of wokeness.
1:37.5	What's your definition?
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