How does a child know what race they are, and where do they get the idea that one race is better than another?

Today, Dr. Beverly Stelt looks into the unconscious origins of racial bias.

Welcome to the Carlet Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003. I'm Chris Aiken, the editor-chief of the Carlatte Psychiatry Report.

And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psych-n-p and a dedicated reader of every issue.

I can go back as far as when I was three years old, And there was a woman in the neighborhood that looked very different to me.

And I asked my mother who she was.

And my mother responded, she's white.

I never heard that term before, white.

I said, oh, white.

Are you white? Am I white? And then I start skipping around saying,

she's white, I'm white, you're white. Now I make a little game out of it. My mother was

obviously very embarrassed, and she shook me to be quiet. I came to understand that I'm black

and she's white, and that to talk about it in the way that I was playing with it was a source of embarrassment.

Last year, a group of psychoanalysts chaired by Dorothy Holmes published the Holmes Commission on Racial Equality in American Psychoanalysis.

It's an historic report that turned the analytic lens on psychoanalysis itself.

Today, we speak with Dr. Beverly Stout, who co-chaired the commission, along with psychoanalysts Anton Hart and Dionne Powell.

The extra clips you'll hear are from the documentary Black Psychoanalyst Speak,

which you can watch in full at black psychoanalyst speak.org or on YouTube.

In our opening clip was Dr. Dolores Morris,

and in our last episode, we left off the credits for two clips,

which featured Dr. Michael

Moskowitz and Anton Hart.

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