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I'm Dr. Vint Houghton, the Museum's historian and curator.

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Welcome back to Curators Corner.

We're talking today and hopefully a very frank and candid way about race in the intelligence field.

And the four panelists that we have are people that rose from the bottom to the very top of their

prospective fields and so they have a lot to talk about a lot to tell us about how this relationship

between their race and their peers race and the broader intelligence community so let me introduce them to you now.

Darrell Blocker is our space friend.

Instead of the last three plus decades

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