Race Against Terror w/Jake Tapper

Unresolved

Unresolved Productions

True Crime, Society & Culture, History

4.5 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

On this special episode of Unresolved, Micheal is joined by bestselling author and CNN lead anchor Jake Tapper to discuss his new book, Race Against Terror, a nonfiction thriller that begins on a crowded refugee ship in the Mediterranean and ends in a courtroom in Brooklyn.

The book revolves around Ibrahim Sulieman Adnan Harun, also known as Spin Ghul ("The White Rose"), an al-Qaeda jihadist who was prosecuted for his actions during the War on Terror; as well as the family of an American soldier killed during an ambush by Spin Ghul. Along the way, you get to meet the officials involved in the decade-long case, many of whom spent years working on it in various ways.

During this conversation, Micheal and Jake discuss the book, what drew Jake to the story, what Spin Ghul's prosecution may mean for the future, how it relates to current events, and so much more.

Thanks to Jake Tapper for chatting with us, and make sure to check out his new book, Race Against Terror, wherever you can find it!

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, it's Michael. Today's episode of the podcast is a very special one. Not only is it an
0:06.0	interview episode with a special guest, who I'll intro in just a minute or so, but it happens to come out on a big anniversary.
0:12.0	The day this episode comes out, October 7th, 2025, happens to be 10 years to the day that I uploaded the very first episode of Unresolved. A lot has changed since
0:22.5	then. Not only for me personally, but I'm sure for all of you listening, and I wanted to take
0:27.1	a moment to say thank you to everyone for coming along for the ride. So to all of you out there
0:31.4	listening. Yeah, you there right now with the face. Thank you for listening to and supporting
0:36.4	Unresolved in your own special way.
0:38.8	It truly means the world to me.
0:40.8	And honestly, again, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for helping make this show
0:44.4	what it is.
0:49.2	On today's episode of Unresolved, we are joined by very special guest, Jake Tapper.
0:54.2	You may know him as one of America's most recognizable newsmen.
0:58.2	He has been the host of CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper since 2013, and one of the co-host
1:03.5	of State of the Union since 2015.
1:06.2	He's moderated presidential debates, served as a senior White House correspondent for ABC News, and received
1:11.7	numerous accolades for his reporting and writing over the years.
1:15.6	Today, Jake joined me to talk about his new book, which is coming out the day this episode
1:19.8	comes out, October 7th.
1:21.9	It is called Race Against Terror, and it is an incredible read.
1:26.4	The book opens with a moment that sounds almost too strange to be true.
1:30.1	On a ship packed with migrants crossing the Mediterranean, a small nervous man pulls aside an
1:35.1	Italian officer and calmly says he's not a refugee, he's a fighter.
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