'Rabbit Hole,' Episode 4: Headquarters

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🗓️ 9 May 2020

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Note: This episode contains strong language. Today, we’re sharing Episode 4 of “Rabbit Hole,” a New York Times audio series with the tech columnist Kevin Roose. In this episode, our reporter interviews the woman running the world’s largest and most influential video empire: Susan Wojcicki, the chief executive of YouTube. "If you're tuning in to "Rabbit Hole" for the first time, start with the prologue. You can find more information about the podcast at nytimes.com/rabbithole.

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0:00.0	From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barrow.
0:07.0	Today, Rabbit Hole.
0:10.0	Episode 4.
0:20.0	Tell me what internet is.
0:22.0	Can you explain what internet is?
0:24.0	What do you write to it like mail?
0:25.0	How do I become a member of internet?
0:30.0	Now, as you may or may not know,
0:32.0	I have poured over 12 years of my life into my YouTube channel.
0:37.0	This YouTube channel, heart, mind, body, soul, money, resources, travel, expertise.
0:43.0	And I stand by what I have done.
0:46.0	And then let me tell you what happened in a 24-hour period.
0:52.0	I have a strike against my channel.
0:57.0	Okay, so Kevin, not long after you and I went down to West Virginia and taught to Caleb,
1:04.0	things that YouTube started changing.
1:07.0	Right.
1:08.0	Apparently you see, I had violated community standards.
1:11.0	So as stories like Caleb's have started coming out about how YouTube and its recommendation algorithm
1:20.0	may be pushing people toward these extreme views.
1:24.0	This was a direct shot across the bound.
1:26.0	YouTube has started telling some video makers that their content is against YouTube's new policies.
1:32.0	What they want to do is to have me start to self-sensor and say,
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