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From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle.

Good morning, good afternoon and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some reasonable debate and independent thinking without the hysterical nonsense you find everywhere else.

I am your host, Isaac Saul.

And on today's show, we are sitting down with a very special guest, Rabbi Mike Moskowitz.

Rabbi Moskowitz is the scholar in residence

for trans and queer Jewish studies at congregation Batesim Kattura, the world's largest LGBTQ

synagogue. He also happens to be my rabbi and a personal friend, a man I learned briefly under

at Ashul in Harlem. Rabbi Moskowitz, thank you so much for being here.

Isaac, thank you so very much for having me. Before we jump in, a brief disclosure, as I sort of alluded

to there, you and I know each other, unlike a lot of the guests I have on the show, we are,

have a close personal relationship. I think maybe a good place to start would just briefly tell my story and how we met.

And then I'm very interested to hear about your origin story. So I, as I've mentioned in Tangle

a few times lived in Israel, I went to a yeshiva there, basically a school for Jewish studies,

but one that was specifically geared towards people

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