R1 The Hunt for Justice | Plato's Republic, book 1
Ancient Greece Declassified
Dr. Lantern Jack
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🗓️ 21 February 2021
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
The second installment in our 11-part series on Plato's Republic. Use the following timestamps for easier navigation:
0:22 Introduction: virtues vs values
7:10 The beginning of the Republic
13:50 Cephalus' "definition" of justice
15:10 Polemarchus tries to define justice
29:30 Thrasymachus challenges Socrates
34:20 Thrasymachus tries to define justice
42:25 Thrasymachus praises injustice
54:45 Epilogue I: Is this good philosophy?
1:08:10 Epilogue II: Is this good literature?
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, thanks for tuning in to ancient Greece, Declassified. |
| 0:12.0 | Episode R1, Plato's Republic Book 1, The Hunt for Justice. |
| 0:21.5 | Virtues are more important than values. |
| 0:24.5 | That line jumped out at me from an audiobook my wife was listening to the other day. |
| 0:28.7 | I remember thinking, wow, that simple phrase really sums up a key difference between ancient |
| 0:34.0 | Greek and modern approaches to ethics. |
| 0:36.9 | Our society today seems obsessed with values. |
| 0:39.3 | Just think about how many times you've heard the phrase, |
| 0:42.3 | our shared values, or that goes against our values. |
| 0:46.3 | Every club, company, corporation, political party, and religious institution today |
| 0:51.3 | touts its own list of values up on its website. By contrast, the ancient |
| 0:55.4 | Greeks didn't care much for what we call values. For them, it was all about virtues. What's the |
| 1:01.9 | difference? Well, values are essentially beliefs. Anyone can claim to have them. But virtues are |
| 1:07.8 | behaviors or activities. It's very difficult to claim you have a certain virtue, say courage, |
| 1:13.6 | unless you have a track record of behaving courageously. |
| 1:16.6 | By contrast, anyone can claim to value courage. |
| 1:20.6 | And so, an ancient Greek philosopher, if presented with our modern outlook about values, |
| 1:24.6 | would probably say, you know, I think virtues are more important. |
| 1:29.7 | Now, you might have guessed that this audiobook was on the history of philosophy. |
| 1:34.0 | But actually, it was a book by the famous investor and tech entrepreneur Ben Horowitz |
| 1:38.6 | about how company founders can build a healthy culture among their team that helps their |
| 1:43.5 | company grow and succeed. |
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