R.I.P. "A Nation of Laws Not Men", 1780-2019

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Chris Cotnoir

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🗓️ 14 June 2019

⏱️ 71 minutes

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In 1780 John Adams wrote "For as in absolute governments the King is law, so in free countries the law ought to be king; and there ought to be no other." It was in the Massachusetts Constitution that he was trying to enshrine the idea that the new U.S. would be "a nation of laws not men." It was a nice idea while it lasted. This week, as we discuss with Ben Wittes of Lawfare, Ryan Goodman of Just Security and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law Center, that idea met a handful of new challenges that may amount to some of the toughest it has ever faced in the U.S. Now what? We discuss that--and the use of force in Iran--with our brilliant, engaging, insightful guests. Join us. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:47.0	Hi, I'm David Rothkoff, and as I listened to our intro, I think, once that was kind of funny this ministry of snark stuff and with every day
0:56.4	of passing news it becomes less and less funny.
1:00.3	I'm here as we typically are on a Thursday afternoon in the studio at the comedy
1:06.4	cellar in Greenwich Village which we're grateful for the use of and I am with as we
1:11.5	typically are on Thursday afternoons, I'm very glad to say,
1:15.0	with Ryan Goodman, who's a professor of law at NYU law school,
1:18.5	and is co-editor of the Just Security blog, and it was kind of the brains of at least this part of the
1:25.7	conversation. Fortunately, we're augmented in that regard as well by our old friend
1:30.9	Ben Wittis, who is the editor-in-chief of the lawfare blog and who has been
1:38.0	immersed in this Trump tornado of news for the past couple of years.
1:45.0	Hi Ben, welcome.
1:48.0	Hey.
1:49.0	And so, you know, I'm looking across at Ryan, and you know, he looks, you know, like he has PTSD, something to that effect.
1:59.0	Because literally every, this is one of those weeks where every two hours there's a new news story.
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