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The Startup CPG Podcast

R&D Radio: Lara Tiro of Rebel CPG — The PB&J Framework, COGS, and How to Scale a Food Product the Right Way

The Startup CPG Podcast

Startup CPG

Startup, Food, Business, Beverage, Cpg, Entrepreneurship

4.9642 Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary


In this episode of R&D Radio, hosted by food scientist Adam Yee, Adam sits down with Lara Tiro, founder of Rebel CPG — a commercialization and innovation agency helping food entrepreneurs bridge the gap between a great recipe and a retail-ready product. Lara is a food scientist with over 20 years of experience in food manufacturing, quality assurance, product development, and commercialization. She has worked with brands across baking, frozen foods, refrigerated products, plant proteins, and value-added food categories, and is known for her practical, business-first approach to helping founders scale without bleeding money.


Lara started her career grading organic eggs at a tiny local farm, moved on to processing raspberries at a jam facility, built her foundation in food safety and quality assurance, and eventually moved into product development for a commercial bakery before launching Rebel CPG in 2021. Along the way she picked up a degree combining food science and economics at the University of British Columbia — a combination that shapes everything about how she thinks about this industry.


Adam and Lara get into all of it — why getting cozy with COGS is the single most important thing a food entrepreneur can do, how the PB&J framework gives founders a structure for thinking about their product, brand, and business, and why your formula is always going to change at scale and that is not a failure. Lara also shares a real client story about scaling a frozen baby food product from a home kitchen recipe to a commercially viable product — and what that process actually looks like when done right.


Listen in as they cover:

  • Why COGS is the most important and most overlooked thing early stage food founders need to understand
  • The PB&J framework: Product, Packaging, Pricing, Process, Brand, Buyer, Baseline, and Joy
  • Why your formula will always change at scale — and how to be okay with that
  • The real difference between a recipe and a commercially scalable formula
  • How Lara helped Wholesome Yum founder Megan take a frozen baby food concept from home kitchen to retail-ready product
  • Why food safety is the foundation of everything — and why it does not get celebrated enough
  • The role of packaging in product development — and why it has to be developed in parallel with formulation
  • What hydrocolloids and tamarind seed gum are doing in the sauce and dressing category right now
  • A palm oil fat replacer made of dietary fiber that Lara is helping launch at a sauce conference
  • Why done is better than perfect in product development — and what that actually means in practice


Whether you are a founder trying to scale your first product, a food entrepreneur who has been told it will be cheaper when you scale, or someone who just wants to understand what a food scientist actually does, this episode is for you.


Episode Links:


Rebel CPG Website: https://www.rebelcpg.com 


Rebel CPG LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rebelcpg/ 


Lara Tiro on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laratiro 

Munching on Molecules Podcast: available on Apple, YouTube, and Spotify


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Did you hear that? That's opportunity knocking. We've been building something big.

0:07.9

Introducing Opportunity Knocks, a new campaign giving startup CPG brands exclusive, direct access to submit to leading retailers, distributors, investors, media, and more.

0:19.2

Here's how it works. On Fridays, a new submission window opens exclusively

0:23.6

for active startup CPG email subscribers. Each campaign features a custom form tailored to that partner.

0:30.7

Share your brand story, products, distribution, and traction. Startup CPG delivers your applications

0:36.6

directly to the partner's team.

0:38.8

Some campaigns include a live fireside chat so you can meet the partner and ask questions directly.

0:44.6

To get every drop, subscribe at startupcg.com slash okay. That's just the letters O and K.

0:51.7

Today's drop is live and it's with Whole Foods Market UK. Ready, go. in love with their product.

1:21.3

And I get it, right?

1:22.5

I've done that.

1:23.4

I've been there.

1:24.4

And when they go to market and they don't understand that cost structure or their supply chain ecosystem, I call it the Pac-Man because everyone needs a piece of the pie.

1:33.6

And so that gap will catch up to you.

1:35.4

So you've got to know your numbers.

1:37.5

And if you don't, you can't price properly.

1:39.6

You can't negotiate.

1:41.0

You can't scale without bleeding the money.

1:43.4

I know.

1:44.0

I'm like, I feel like a parent,

1:46.2

but it is what like, it has to be said. I mean, the product has to taste delicious and it has

1:51.4

to make sense as a business. Otherwise, it's a hobby, but those things have to be true.

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