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The Lawfare Podcast

Quinta Jurecic and Molly Reynolds on the First Jan. 6 Hearings

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🗓️ 28 July 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Yesterday saw the first hearing of the special House Select Committee to investigate the Jan. 6 riots and insurrection. Four law enforcement officers testified before the committee, which consisted of the Democrats along with two renegade Republicans, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.

To chew it all over, Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare congressional guru Molly Reynolds, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Quinta Jurecic, a fellow at the Brookings Institution. They talked about how the first hearing went, what it says about where the committee is headed, the fissures within the Republican party over how to handle this committee and whether the committee will have enough time and focus to get to real accountability.

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no bull and the aftermath.

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Much of what the committee is able to uncover on the questions that it identifies is not

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about what happens in the work of the committee itself.

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It's about what cooperation are they able to get from witnesses and from document requests

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that they have and if they don't get immediate cooperation.

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What does a kind of litigation strategy look like if we learned anything from congressional

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oversight in the Trump years?

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We learned a lot about running out the clock.

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I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast July 28, 2021.

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Yesterday saw the first hearing of the special House Select Committee to investigate the

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January 6th riots and insurrection.

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For law enforcement officers testified before the committee which consisted of the Democrats

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along with two renegade Republicans Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.

1:42.5

To chew it all over, I was joined in the virtual jungle studio by LawFair, congressional

1:49.7

guru Molly Reynolds, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and Quinted Jurassic.

1:56.8

Now a fellow at the Brookings Institution.

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We talked about how the first hearing went, what it says about where the committee is headed,

2:07.6

the fissures within the Republican Party over how to handle this committee and whether

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