Hello, this is Father Dave Nix at the Padre Peregrino channel, and just two quick notabenees before we start here.

One is I'm in the gym, and I may have to leave if other people come in because it's an empty public gym.

Luckily, nobody's in here right now, but I'm just going to have to leave, so it might be a choppy podcast right here.

And then secondly, because this is first going on YouTube and maybe later the podcast apps,

I am going to use for the term A-B-O-R-T-I-O-N for that horrible murderous procedure.

I'm just going to use the medical abbreviation of A-B. That's not just to keep it PG for any kids watching.

That's because there are certain algorithms that will get me removed from our host

for the first thing that this is on, which is YT, as we will call it.

So most of you know by now the news, and I'm also a little bit winded because it's the gym.

Most of you know by now that the Vatican has apparently not just suspended,

but is aiming for the laicization of the founder of Priests for Life, Father Frank Pavone. I know him in real life. I've met him a

couple times. And one of the pieces of, one of the things that he's attacked for, not just by the

left, but even by well-meaning people on the right, is a few years ago he had what some people

would call a political stunt because he had what some people would call a

political stunt because he had an unborn baby on an altar, rather a deceased unborn baby from

A.B. You know what I mean by A.B. On his altar in his office. And many people accused him of

using a corpse for a political stunt.

We're going to come back to that in just a minute, okay?

What he did there.

I want to switch gears for just a minute on a very sensitive topic.

I don't want to start a debate in the live chat on if miscarried babies go to limbo.

You just have to get the doctrinal, quote-unquote, development

...