Hey everybody, Michael Steele here. Now I know you're waiting for the next big episode,

but in the meantime, give a listen to this Michael Steele podcast quick take.

John need to get ready because what we're about to do is something we haven't done up

in here before. And there's only one person I think I could do this with. And that is my guest,

the one and only incomparable professor Eddie Glod. He is the James S. McDonald Distinguished

Professor and Chair of the Department of African American Studies at Princeton University.

He currently serves as president of the American Academy of Religion, so we can get into that.

He has authored many books, the most recent of which we're going to talk about today.

Just released, begin again, James Baldwin's America and its urgent lessons for our own is currently

on the New York Times bestseller list. My brother and I can say this honestly, Eddie,

because I listened to you, my mentor, Professor Eddie Glod, welcome to the podcast.

I am so excited by this conversation. By the way, I'm no longer the president of the American

Academy of Religion. That's all right. What do you have to have your little term?

He's an appreciated former president. It's like being a former chairman. The best time

you can have is for. So, okay, so this book folks, and I'm going to talk about it a lot,

and I want you to, again, put it on your list for end of summer reading. Begin again, James Baldwin's

America. Eddie, this book is different, and I want to start with a review by the New York Times.

Because I thought it was interesting the way Jennifer Sazala, Sazala, I can't pronounce her last

name unfortunately, SZ-A-L-A-I to give her props. This is what she writes. Eddie Glod, Jr.

has published a blistering indictment of the Obama era, right? Under the watch of the first black

president, Glod, Glod wrote, quote, black people have suffered tremendously. A democratic machine that

took black voters for granted had convinced Glod that the only way forward would be an electoral

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