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I told you all this was going to be unlike conversation you thought it was going to be because this sister is one from the very first moment

I met her and she called me out.

I don't even remember doing it.

No, but it wasn't it wasn't a negative. I mean, it was it was the one thing I can say about you.

You've always been consistent even though your show may have all developed and done all these gone through all these permutations as things do.

The consistent thread with you has always been about pushing people to be honest about what they are and who they are.

You talked about, you know, cancel culture and all that, you know, I recall back in was it think it was 2018 you were part of the essence magazines woke 100.

The work 100 list.

Clearly that's changed.

The meaning of that term is change, but I mean, I guess the question is what how do you look at.

What that meant then in 2018.

I look at it the way I look at Rolling Stones top 100 best singers like it's there for the clicks and algorithms you put people on it.

So let me just say first you think first thank you essence I guess, but you know, you're all about 10 years beyond me caring about whether or not I should be on a list.

There was a time Michael steel.

When I want to put when in Pulitzer's out here with best selling books like the only black woman with a string of best selling books.

S is never ever ever.

They had a lot of people in their magazine never called on me.

Wow.

Are you serious?

Never.

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