Quick Take: Making the Case for a Third Party

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

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🗓️ 11 May 2024

⏱️ 18 minutes

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This is an excerpt from the full episode "The Fall of the Republican Party: With Chris Vance."

Michael Steele speaks with former Washington State Party Chairman, Chris Vance about his new book, "The Fall of the Shining City: What Happened to the Republican Party. Why it Happened. And What Must Happen Now to Save American Democracy.” The pair discuss third parties and creating a new faction of the GOP, whether or not the GOP will return to being a party of Reagan and where the party goes moving forward.

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0:00.0	Hey Michael Steele podcast listeners, Michael Steele here with another quick take from the Michael Steele podcast.
0:13.7	Check out what's going on right now.
0:16.2	Welcome back everybody to the Michael Steele Podcast.
0:19.7	I'm glad you can join us.
0:21.3	There's sort of a little bit of a deep dive
0:24.8	to, you know, party chairman inside the GOP
0:29.0	talking about how we save ourselves from ourselves. The book, The Fall of The Shining City, its author is Chris Vance.
0:42.0	Chris, so you noticed we were going to break, you talked about creating a faction and you and I've had this debate for quite some time making the case for a new party.
0:54.4	You lay it out expertly in your book.
0:58.3	I really want to open that up because I think
1:01.2	there's a lot there that people don't know. There's a lot there that people presume.
1:10.0	But more importantly, there's a lot there that we can do to sort of get that going.
1:16.3	You note in the book, quote, there is absolutely no reason why we must remain locked into the current
1:21.7	party duopoly.
1:23.0	Until relatively recently, our political parties were constantly splitting up, realigning, and reforming.
1:30.0	The Federalist Party broke up and vanished after the War of 1812. The Democratic Party split
1:37.0	over the leadership of Andrew Jackson and internal improvements, eventually creating the Whig Party.
1:44.2	The Whigs broke up in the 1850s over the issue of slavery and the Republican Party emerged.
1:51.0	Republicans split in 1872 over reconstruction, again in 1896, over the currency issue, and again in 1912.
1:59.0	That tells you right now, we unstable as hell.
2:02.0	Sure.
2:02.6	Well we used to be.
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