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The Michael Steele Podcast

Quick Take: How Tech Platforms Undermine Liberalism

The Michael Steele Podcast

Two Squared Media

Politics, News, History, Government

4.83.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2022

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Political scientist Francis Fukuyama joins The Michael Steele Podcast to discuss his new book, "Liberalism and Its Discontents." Michael and Professor Fukuyama discuss current manifestations of liberalism— the ideology that government should have limited power— and how liberalism ties into today's fight for individual autonomy and the ways in which tech platforms have worked to undermine liberalism.

Check out the book here:
https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374606718/liberalismanditsdiscontents

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, Michael Steel Podcast listeners, Michael Steel here with another quick take from the

0:12.5

Michael Steel Podcast. Check out what's going on right now.

0:17.0

Welcome back everybody to the Michael Steel Podcast, Michael Steel here having a wonderful

0:20.7

conversations with Francis Fukuyama who is out with this new book, Liberalism and his

0:26.9

discontents. One of my favorite chapters where you talked about individual autonomy.

0:35.8

But for the moment, focusing on how these platforms actually have worked to undermine

0:43.6

the foundations, if you will, of classical liberalism.

0:47.8

Well, they've done it in several ways. So, you know, a basic liberal principle is freedom

0:54.0

of speech that we don't regulate speech. Anyone can say what they want and there's a marketplace

0:59.0

of ideas in which hopefully as a result of deliberation and discussion, the good ideas

1:05.4

will rise to the top and the bad ones will be discarded. In the modern internet age, you

1:12.2

have these powerful platforms like Facebook, Google, Twitter that can amplify certain ideas

1:21.4

in a very powerful way and they can suppress ideas like when Twitter kicked Donald Trump,

1:27.6

you know, offered it. I mean, Trump himself said that Twitter was the greatest megaphone

1:32.0

in the world that was free, you know, and it was like he had his own broadcasting channel.

1:37.2

So when they take that away from him, it really does serve to, you know, silence that particular

1:43.2

point of view.

1:44.2

That's okay though, but that's okay.

1:47.6

Well, it's okay because that's not government action. That's private action.

1:52.3

Yeah. So the way the law defines freedom of speech, it's only the government that can

1:58.8

restrict it. But I think in reality, there's other things like these powerful private corporations

2:06.3

that can act like governments because they're so critical to political communication.

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