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The Michael Steele Podcast

Quick Take: How Smart Phones Impacted Perceptions of Race

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2024

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

This is an excerpt from the full episode "The Argument for a Colorblind Society: With Coleman Hughes."

Michael Steele speaks with Coleman Hughes about his new book, "The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America." The pair discuss the concept of colorblindness, its rejection by the political left, and the impact of race-based policies. They also touch on the importance of promoting meritocracy and how technology has influenced perceptions of race.

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0:00.0

Hey Michael Steele podcast listeners, Michael Steele here with another quick take from the Michael Steele

0:13.0

podcast check out what's going on right now.

0:16.0

Welcome back everybody to the Michael Steele

0:18.5

podcast. We've been having a very good conversation.

0:21.3

I this this has been very sobering in a lot of ways because Coleman we don't we don't really sort of take

0:28.7

the time to talk about all of the nuance that goes into racial politics and race in America, that when you consider issues like, okay, how do we get to a color blind point?

0:44.8

I love that when Barack Obama got elected, everyone was like,

0:47.6

oh, now we've reached a color blind society.

0:49.7

We've elected a black man.

0:50.8

I'm like, no, baby, we haven't done that we're nowhere near that stop it but yet and still people look for and gravitate towards these quick fixes the arguments that I make, and I think you do as well in the book, really focus around the work that you have, that's also involved in this and in trying to get, you know, the

1:20.0

country to that to that place.

1:28.4

I think you've touched on a couple of cases already.

1:52.1

What should be, if you could just do the magic wand thing and kind of really kind of get into people's heads after 248 years of America and even more so more time of blacks and on this on this land that it's time to move on to something else that we we can be more

2:00.8

enlightened in this area than we are,

2:03.8

what would you say?

2:04.6

How would you begin to do it?

2:06.1

Does it rest in your generation?

2:08.2

Do you see those elements in your generation of political leadership, economic leadership, societal leadership,

2:20.1

what you see on, crazy as it sound on spaces like Tik-Tok I see a lot of folks kind of you know

2:27.3

breaking down barriers in no spaces you know that's a way where you kind of put something up and see how people react and and you kind of get the viable where people go how I mean what tools what what messaging do you think needs to happen right now?

2:42.3

So one of my big disagreements with some recent best-selling authors on this topic is that I think

2:50.4

children are generally born with the correct attitude about race.

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