Quick Take: Changing Minds in a Polarized World

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

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🗓️ 15 April 2023

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

This is an excerpt from the episode "Persuading a Divided Democracy: With Anand Giridharadas."

Best-selling author Anand Giridharadas joins The Michael Steele Podcast to discuss his new book, "The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy." The pair discuss
how you go about changing minds in today's polarized world, the tactics that do and don't work and real life examples of of "deep canvassing," going door to door to change people's minds on big issues.

Check out the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Persuaders-Front-Lines-Hearts-Democracy-ebook/dp/B09QPH4LTX

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0:00.0	Hey, Michael Steel Podcast listeners, Michael Steel here with another quick take from the
0:12.5	Michael Steel Podcast.
0:14.3	Check out what's going on right now.
0:16.9	Welcome back everybody.
0:18.7	We are keeping it live and keeping it real here at the Michael Steel Podcast and so glad
0:24.0	you could be a part of the conversation with us today.
0:27.1	We are getting into the book, The Persuaders at the Frontlines of the Fight for Hearts,
0:32.7	Minds and Democracy.
0:35.6	It is authored by Anad Girodadas who is a best-selling author, MSNBC Political Analyst and
0:43.1	a Buddy.
0:44.1	You think there's a lesson to be learned in that theory of communication that how you say
0:50.6	something is equally if not more important than what you say.
0:55.5	In other words, we very readily branded AOC on the right, readily and quickly.
1:04.1	Why?
1:05.1	Because it was easy.
1:07.3	Because you threw up a whole lot of stuff that was easy to target and go after, which
1:14.9	kind of boiled down to this sort of green new deal package.
1:20.0	How do progressives and the Democratic Party on the whole kind of rethink that part of
1:32.0	the messaging so that those early traps that they used to fall into and some would argue
1:38.8	like myself, they still fall into to some degree can be avoided.
1:45.2	It's like in any sport.
1:48.5	When your opponent knows the play before you do it, that begs you got to change up the
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