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The Michael Steele Podcast

Quick Take: AOC and the New American Politics

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2024

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

This is an excerpt from the full episode "How Populist Rebels Changed Politics: With Joshua Green."

Michael Steele speaks with best-selling author Joshua Green about his new book, "The Rebels: Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and the Struggle for a New American Politics." The pair discuss how the populist movement emerged from the 2008 financial crisis and led to the rise of Warren, Bernie and AOC. They also discuss how the populist movement helped get Trump elected in 2016 and what it might mean for 2024.

Check out the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Rebels-Elizabeth-Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-Struggle-ebook/dp/B082H2KYG3

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0:00.0

Hey Michael Steele podcast listeners, Michael Steele here with another quick take from the Michael Steele podcast.

0:14.0

Check out what's going on right now.

0:16.8

Welcome back everybody to the Michael Steele podcast.

0:20.0

Having a great conversation, sort of a deep dive into the political psyche and development of a progressive wing within the Democratic Party outlined in the book,

0:34.4

The Rebels by Joshua Green.

0:37.4

So Joshua, I want to get into,

0:39.5

we talked about the emergence of Warren, the rise of the backbencher of Bernie Sanders, and then the new generation now has come to the table, not only in a different fashion than we typically see in Washington, but with a higher degree of demands and a willingness to use the outside infrastructure,

1:08.0

social media, etc, to press their points. then that was never more noted than in the person of Alexandria

1:18.5

Acasio Cortez the Congress woman from New York.

1:21.9

Tell us a little bit about that story

1:23.3

and the emergence of her role in this new American politics.

1:27.9

Yeah, I mean, to me, the fascinating thing

1:30.9

or the, like the most historically noteworthy thing about

1:33.9

AOC is that she represents a kind of generational passing of the torch right we've talked

1:38.4

about this emergence of left-wing populism after the crisis, but it's two kind of chief avatars were Warren and Bernie who were much, much older.

1:49.0

A Kaseo Cortez is so interesting because she was really brought into national politics by Bernie Sanders.

1:56.0

She was a Bernie Sanders campaign staffer, volunteer, got very interested in organizing that way.

2:02.0

That's what prompted her to run for office.

2:04.8

It helped that she also turned out

2:06.4

to be, I think, a generationally talented politician

2:09.6

and communicator.

2:11.6

But she sort of burst onto the scene by defeating Joe Crowley the New York

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