Here is a big existential question for every media company today. Do they fight the AI

tech overlords or do they just take their money? So far, most of them are taking the money,

but a few are fighting. One of them is Zip Davis. This is Peter Kafka, the host of channels.

And on this week's episode, I'm talking to Zip Davis, CEO of Vec Shah, who tells me he's kind of optimistic about the media business and why he's taking on the people behind chat GPT.

That's this week on channels, wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.

Hey, everyone. John Wortham here. It is day three at the 2025 US Open. This is quick serve.

Brought to you by Amazon Prime. Let's wrap up the final day of the first round of this tournament.

I was thinking Hollywood makes what they call four quadrant movies.

What does that mean?

That means films that appeal to four quadrants, young, old, men, women.

It was kind of a four quadrant tennis day.

No crazy headlines, no great scandal, no great controversy, but a little something for everyone. We had familiar faces winning. We had five set battles. We had some blowouts. We had a couple of mini upsets. I guess if there's

a story of the day right now, I think it's probably Cocoa Goff having to really work for her

first round win over Ila Tamianovic. Remember, Coco is here with a new coach biomechanics expert,

Gavin McMillan. I actually did a bit of a dive on Gavin McMillan. Fascinating guy. I mean,

he actually does have a tennis background. He played at San Jose State and is probably best known for

helping Rina Savalenko a few years ago with her serve, but really he works with

athletes in all sports, in baseball, in MMA, and boxing with Troy Palomalo of the NFL.

And his great premise is that these failings are not necessarily about sports psychology

and about weakness and fear and choking and visualization.

It's all about stability and the human body

in having technique that is perfected. So it's really interesting that Coco has chosen to work

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