What is key to a lasting peace in Ukraine? We have a special guest with very unique insight as both a

mother and a member of Ukraine's parliament. I'm Jenna, and this is smarter news.

We first met Ina Sovson, a Ukrainian law, at the very beginning of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

I reached out to her after seeing a social media post that you're going to hear us discuss today.

She's sitting next to a gun in this post attempting to work during the early days of the invasion.

And I learned she was a mother of a young son and had a loved one fighting on the front lines. And we've touched base every year over the invasion. And I learned she was a mother of a young son and had a loved one fighting on

the front lines. And we've touched base every year over the last several years because unlike

anyone else, Ina reminds us that foreign policy is personal. And although we know there are many

perspectives on the way forward in Ukraine, we didn't want to forget hers.

Here's Ina Sofson.

Nina, it's so nice to see you again.

It's been several years that we've been able to touch base.

And I look forward to our conversations every time because you provide such a unique perspective.

Let me just start with a general question, which is, can be tough to answer in this sort of a situation. How are you doing? How's

your family? How are things going? Yeah, that's the simplest question, yet the most complicated

one, because it's very difficult to explain. You could say in one word, like, not very well,

I think, but then explaining that will take time. But I think at this point of time, everybody is very tired and exhausted,

leaving under this war.

I mean, I'm lacking my family is okay-ish to an extent possible,

but my partner is still in the front lines.

I've hardly seen him over the last three and a half years now. My son is okay. He goes to school,

but he spent three and a half years of his childhood as a child living in the territory of war,

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