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What argument from scripture would you give to someone who says we are no longer

beholden to the Old Testament law that we are under the law of grace?

Not under law, under grace.

That is for me.

Can I see that question next one?

Yeah. So, yeah, the Old Testament For me. Can I see that question last one? Yeah, let's do the first.

Yeah, the Old Testament law specifically.

So like Paul, Paul says, don't muzzle the ox.

Worker is worthy of his wages.

He takes this case law, he applies it, the principle of it, right, to pay your pastor.

So obviously the Apostle Paul thought that there was something about the Old Testament

law that was still applicable somehow. And that was a civil law. That wasn't even just a moral

law. And so I do think the distinction between civil, ceremonial, moral is a good one. But what's still

in effect, I think, is the moral law, and the civil

laws kind of showcase what those moral laws are.

So in our context, I think it does take some thinking sometimes.

Often, I think you said this yesterday, Joel, about building a parapet around, you're

on your roof, and like, we don't really do that anymore.

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