Questioning Mormon Learns REAL Truth about Joseph Smith w/ John Dehlin and Carah Burrell | Ep. 2017
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.6 • 5.2K Ratings
🗓️ 5 May 2025
⏱️ 94 minutes
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Summary
Join us as we revisit this epic interview with John Dehlin and Carah Burrell, which originally aired on Carah's channel in 2023.
Eve, a good friend of Carah Burrell's, was an active and faithful member of the LDS Church at the time of this interview. She had begun to question aspects of the Church—particularly polygamy—and agreed to sit down with Carah and John for a truly unique conversation. In this interview, they simply presented her with factual information about LDS history and captured her real-time reactions.
This one-of-a-kind interview is now being shared on Mormon Stories Podcast for the very first time. Be sure to join us later this week as Eve returns to the podcast—this time with both of her parents, who have experienced their own faith journeys since Eve's original interview two years ago.
Watch this episode on YouTube here.
Watch the original video from Carah Burrell here. And Part 1 of this series can be found here.Show Notes:Gospel Topics essay on plural marriage from LDS church:https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=engAddress of the Prophet: His Testimony Against the Dissenters at Nauvoo: https://faenrandir.github.io/a_careful_examination/joseph-smith-testimony-against-dissenters-at-nauvoo/In Sacred Loneliness book: https://tinyurl.com/bddecykbNo Man Knows My History book: https://tinyurl.com/4ux8kn8sRough Stone Rolling: https://tinyurl.com/yc4c9yseCouncil of Fifty: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/topic/council-of-fiftyGov Ford/Joseph Smith letters: https://byustudies.byu.edu/content/volume-6-chapter-27History of the Church books: https://byustudies.byu.edu/history-of-the-church-volumes-1-7/"Who Killled Joseph Smith" from LDS church: https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/content/museum/museum-treasures-powder-horn?lang=engMormon Stories interview with Todd Compton: https://mormonstories.org/podcast/mormon-stories-012-an-introduction-to-mormon-polygamy-with-todd-compton-part-1/Explanation of the Happiness Letter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oFsXvlcHRoMormon Stories 1498: THE LIFE OF HISTORIAN FAWN MCKAY BRODIE WITH NEWELL BRINGHURST: https://mormonstories.org/podcast/life-of-fawn-brodie-with-newell-bringhurst/Text of the Nauvoo Expositor: http://solomonspalding.com/docs/exposit1.htmNetflix documentary Wild Wild Country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Wild_Country
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone, and welcome to one of the most important episodes ever released our Mormon Stories podcast. |
| 0:04.7 | Here's the backstory. In October of 2022, Kara Burrell came into the Mormon Story Studios and brought |
| 0:10.8 | her friend Eve, who was just recently beginning to learn problems with Mormon church history, |
| 0:17.5 | and specifically with Joseph Smith and with his polygamy. |
| 0:22.0 | And so, uh, |
| 0:26.5 | Kara and I, uh, basically spent an hour and a half sharing with Eve, some of the basics that, |
| 0:28.1 | that we, uh, have learned about Joseph Smith, about Mormon polygamy, |
| 0:32.4 | about Oliver Caldrey, about the happiness letter. |
| 0:35.3 | And it's, it's a unique contribution of Mormon stories podcast |
| 0:38.8 | because it's basically a lifelong Mormon who's just learning about the problems with Mormon |
| 0:45.6 | church history for the very first time. Kara released this episode or this interview on her |
| 0:52.4 | own YouTube channel. And it's received almost 700,000 |
| 0:56.0 | views, which makes it one of the most viewed interviews ever conducted in the Mormon Stories |
| 1:01.9 | podcast studio. Well, up until now, it's never been released on Mormon Stories podcast. So part |
| 1:08.1 | one of this series is going to be my interview with Eve and with |
| 1:14.7 | Kara as co-host. That's going to be part one of this series. Part two of the series has been |
| 1:20.9 | recorded recently. It's basically Eve's parents, Neil and Krista, who were total full believers when this episode with Eve was released. |
| 1:32.6 | It turns out that Neil and Krista have had their own Mormon journey since Karen and I released |
| 1:38.8 | this interview with Eve. And so in part two of this series, we're bringing Neil and Krista, along with Eve, back on Mormon Stories podcast to tell their story of their journey with Eve since Eve released that original interview. |
| 1:55.3 | So it's a two-part episode. |
| 1:56.6 | You're going to love it. |
| 1:57.9 | Enjoy part one with me, Karen, Eve, right now. |
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