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🗓️ 8 May 2025
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In this emotional and deeply honest episode, Eve and her parents, Neal and Christa, share their powerful story of faith, devotion, awakening, and transformation. Raised in a multi-generational Mormon household, Eve and her family lived and breathed the teachings of the LDS Church—until the cracks began to show.From Neal’s time as a bishop and Christa’s strong belief in Mormon womanhood, to Eve’s mission and eventual faith transition, this conversation explores:The impact of religious upbringing and cultural expectationsThe emotional toll of unaddressed questions and historical issuesHow Gospel Topics Essays, polyandry, and the church’s lack of transparency triggered a faith crisisEve’s pivotal role in helping her parents deconstruct their beliefsThe cost—and freedom—of walking awayHeartfelt, raw, and eye-opening, this interview shines a light on the complexity of leaving a high-demand religion and finding connection, purpose, and joy on the other side.
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0:00.0 | Remember that thing that everybody on the internet saw where we took one of my friends and told her the truth about Joseph Smith and it flipped her life upside down? |
0:09.9 | How did that impact her and her family? |
0:12.1 | Tune in right now and we're going to talk about it. |
0:14.3 | Going into that interview, I knew I was going to find out things that were not going to make me happy. |
0:25.7 | Leaving the interview, honestly, it was almost an out-of-body experience. |
0:28.8 | I'm like, is this all a joke? |
0:31.3 | What is my life? |
0:35.3 | In our life, whenever we're looking at any issue or question, |
0:39.3 | we look at things critically and analytically, and we stopped and like, why have we not ever done that with the church in the same way? |
0:43.3 | Why have we only looked at the sources the church has given us? |
0:47.3 | It's time to look at this and decide, is this true or is this not in a very objective quantifiable way? |
0:55.0 | When you are indoctrinated from the time that you're a kid, you suspend your disbelief |
1:00.8 | in the possibility that the church leaders could lead you astray. |
1:07.4 | Because everything you're taught is that the way to return to God's presence is to follow |
1:12.1 | the prophet. Hang onto that iron rod, right? Once we became more objective, we looked back and |
1:18.4 | said, how were we not more objective earlier? You know, what in the heck was going on? |
1:25.2 | It's not trivial to note that so many super smart, super educated, otherwise very critically |
1:33.2 | thinking, Latter-day Saints, just shut that stuff off for their whole lives. |
1:41.2 | I think people may not realize how intense it is serving as a lay minister in the Church of Jesus Christ |
1:48.4 | of Latter-day Saints. |
1:49.6 | We felt like, yeah, we're magnifying our callings and we're doing the right things. |
1:52.7 | But in retrospect, I look back and go, was that really the healthiest thing for a family with four |
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