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Reasonable Faith Podcast

Question of the Week #942: Eternal Past Sonship?

Reasonable Faith Podcast

William Lane Craig

Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Christianity

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🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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0:00.0

Dr. Craig, many evangelicals seem to believe that to deny Jesus as being passed eternally

0:20.4

the sun is to somehow deny his

0:22.9

pre-existence as a person of the Trinity. Yet, I know of no clear biblical or philosophical support

0:29.8

for the pre-human person of the Trinity we know as Jesus being a son before he was born a

0:35.7

son when taking on human likeness, Philippians 2.7.

0:41.1

Unless we equivocate on the meaning of sonship, which humans only know in terms of the male

0:46.6

offspring of creatures, is there any reason to believe Jesus was a son before he was born a

0:52.2

son of God and man, Mary.

0:55.4

I would appreciate knowing your position on this biblically and philosophically.

1:01.5

Mark from the United States.

1:03.7

Your question is a subtle one, Mark, which may be easily misunderstood by our listeners.

1:12.4

You are not calling into question the existence of the second person of the Trinity,

1:18.5

the Logos or Word of John 1-1,

1:23.6

prior to his incarnation as Jesus of Nazareth.

1:28.7

The pre-existence of the Logos is widely attested in the New Testament.

1:35.4

Rather, your question is whether the Logos had the status of being a son prior to his incarnation. One's answer to this question will depend

1:49.8

in an important measure on whether you think that the Logos' being the only begotten God,

1:58.9

monogenes Theos, John 118, is a status that belongs to his very being,

2:06.5

or is a status that he takes on in the plan of salvation. If the former, then the sunship of the

2:17.1

Logos belongs to the ontological Trinity,

2:21.4

that is the Trinity as it exists, essentially.

2:25.7

Whereas if it is the latter, then the Lagos' sonship belongs to the economic trinity,

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