Queering the Tarot w/ Charlie Claire Burgess
Spirits: Mythology, Legends, & Folklore
Multitude
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 23 July 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
Shuffle through your Tarot deck as we’re joined by author and artist Charlie Claire Burgess who talks about their work around tarot and the intersection of spirituality and queerness. We talk about witchy awakenings courtesy of the CW network, getting rid of the binary in tarot readings, and so much more!
Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about or mentions of queerphobia, abusive relationships, theft, misogyny, white supremacists, patriarchy, colonization, and the apocalypse.
Guest
Charlie (they/them) is a queer and trans-nonbinary author and artist working at the intersection of spirituality and queerness. They are the author of Queer Devotion and Radical Tarot and the creator of the Fifth Spirit Tarot and Gay Marseille Tarot decks. Their nonfiction writing has appeared in the Lambda Literary Review, F(r)iction Magazine, The Rebis, and the Tarot in Other Words anthology, and their short fiction has earned a Pushcart Prize Special Mention and notable mentions in two Best American anthologies.
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| 0:00.0 | The I'm going to be. Welcome to Spirits podcast of Boozy dive into mythology, legends, and folklore. |
| 0:32.7 | Every week we pour a drink and learn about a new story from around the world. |
| 0:36.4 | I'm Amanda. |
| 0:37.1 | And I'm Julia. |
| 0:38.3 | And we are so excited to be joined by perhaps the most, Julia, tell me if you disagree. |
| 0:43.4 | The most down the middle spirits guest of, uh, we, we got about five words into their bio and said, |
| 0:49.1 | I mean, yeah, to whoever this person is. |
| 0:51.4 | Charlie Claire Burgess, the radical tarot deck creator, |
| 0:55.3 | the queer, trans, non-binary, author, artist, tarot reader. |
| 0:59.0 | I see in your Instagram bio, Charlie, you're a Dirty Aquarius, |
| 1:02.1 | and a Jenner Anarchist. |
| 1:03.6 | So welcome to the show. |
| 1:05.3 | Congratulations on your whole vibe. |
| 1:07.8 | Thank you so much, Amanda. |
| 1:10.1 | A little peek behind the curtain for the audience. |
| 1:12.3 | We occasionally get very cool publishers and PR people that will send us emails on behalf of their clients being like, I think this person would be a good fit. |
| 1:20.2 | And a lot of times they don't research the show at all. |
| 1:22.7 | So it's like a whiskey maker who doesn't know anything about mythology or folklore. |
| 1:26.9 | And we're like, I mean, I guess, but I think you kind of missed half of the show. Or a medium who is like, give me money and I will make sure your dead relatives forgive you. And we're like, I think not here. I don't think so. Yeah. But this one, we said, oh yes, immediately. So Charlie, thank you so much. We received your books. We got your tarot deck. I have everything |
| 1:46.1 | laid out in front of me right now. So I am so excited to talk about you and your work, but |
| 1:52.3 | we're doing a great job kind of telling the audience about who you are. But in your own words, |
| 1:57.2 | who are you and what do you do? I am so excited to be here because since I learned of |
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