Hello, my lovely betwixters. It's me, Kate Lister. I am jumping in here to say that thanks to you, we have made the final six in the listeners choice award category at the British Podcast Awards. And that can't just be my mum voting. It can't. I mean, it might be, but I don't think that it is. And that means that a whole load of you have actually gone out there and taken the time to vote for us. And honestly, thank you so, so much. That means more than you can possibly imagine. And if you haven't voted yet, you are letting the side down and you want to just get on with it, frankly. Now, seriously, if you haven't voted, please do it now. It'll take 30 seconds at most. And you can do it by following the link in the show notes. And don't forget to click the confirmation email when it comes through. And to those of you that have already voted, don't go voting again through a different email address. That would just be a terrible thing. I'm just putting that out there. So nobody, no one actually thinks of doing that. I certainly haven't been doing that. We've never been this

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we've done this now. Three years we've been shortlisted. Maybe this is the year that we're going

to do it. And I promise

you, I promise, it's only a couple more days of me constantly begging you for votes and

just thank you for being so patient and for voting. All right, on with the show.

Hello, I'm Greg Jenner, host of You're Dead to Me, the comedy podcast from the BBC

that takes history seriously. Each week I'm joined by a comedian and an expert historian to learn

and laugh about the past. In our all-new season, we cover unique areas of history that your school

lessons may have missed, from getting ready in the Renaissance era to the Kellogg Brothers.

Listen to your dead to me now, wherever you get your podcasts.

Hello, my lovely betwixters, it's me, Kate Lister. You are listening to Bertwix the sheets.

And we do like to get a bit spicy around here. So in the interest of safety and public decency, I do have to tell you. This is an adult podcast. Welcome to other adults about adulty things and an adulty covering arranged. subject's news being adult too. We call that the fair do's warning because if you keep listening

and you get upset, well, fair do's. We did try to let you know.

Right. On with the show.

Hello, betwixters. You're joining me in the year 1787 at Carlton House, and we are watching a fencing match.

Quite a big crowd has gathered, actually.

The two contestants are Monsieur de St. George and Mademoiselle la Chevalier de Ion.

Huh. There's nothing too surprising in a fencing match happening at this point, except that the Chevalier is a woman, Or are they? Is that a woman dressed as a man?

Is it a man dressed as a woman? Is it a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman?

Nobody is very sure. And mystery about the Chevalier's gender has been circulating for a very,

very long time. But just who was this person? Why are they dressed as a woman, dressed as a man,

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