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Hello, you're about to listen to a BBC podcast, and I'm Ed Gamble, host of another BBC podcast, The Traitors Uncloaked.

But my show is available only on BBC Sounds, just like Ellis and John's Saturday bonus episodes,

The Pop Top Ten podcast with Scott Mills and Rylan, and comedy specials

from the likes of Harriet Kemsley, Susie Ruffel and Rommashranganathan.

However, and maybe I'm biased, it's really all about the traitors uncoaked.

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This Scotland Outdoors podcast from BBC Radio Scotland.

Hello and thanks very much for choosing to listen to this.

I'm Helen Needham.

In this edition, I'm exploring the concept of queer ecology with interdisciplinary plant researcher Dr. M. M. Maren May Armstrong.

Over the past couple of years, I've encountered this term more often, so I really wanted to dig into what it means.

What I discovered is that viewing our history and perceived understanding of the natural world,

which in itself is a controversial term, through the lens of queer ecology can be mind-expanding.

It invites us to consider the beauty, complexity and strangeness of plants and animals in new

and interesting ways.

M lives in Glasgow, so I met them at their favourite local green space, Queen's Park, in the south side.

And as we approached the duck pond, I asked, what was it that drew you to plants in the first place?

I grew up in the countryside in Essex,

and I spent a lot of time playing in fields,

and getting grubby, getting muddy.

I remember my mom explaining to me what chlorophyll is when I was young,

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