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The Bill Barnwell Show

Quarterback Tiers with Mike Sando

The Bill Barnwell Show

ESPN

Sports

4.4660 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Bill and Mike Sando of The Athletic react to the findings in Mike's annual QB tiers column: what changed to get Lamar Jackson into tier 1, why Jalen Hurts is so difficult to rank, the range of outcomes for Aaron Rodgers this season, and the single most fascinating vote of the entire process. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey guys, welcome to the Bill Barnwell Show.

0:38.5

I am Bill Barnwell.

0:39.8

Today, very excited for our annual discussion about one of my favorite articles of the entire

0:46.0

year.

0:47.0

Every year it comes out, the quarterback tiers column over at the athletic.

0:53.5

Joining me to talk about it is our friend, my former colleague at ESPN, who's some great work now for several years. At the athletic, it is my friend Mike Sando. Mike, how are you? I'm better now. Bill, it's great to be reunited. I love doing this. Follow your work, of course, closely. And I know we always have a good conversation,

1:11.0

lots to talk about. Yes. I feel like this is such a, it's such a fun column. We get actual

1:18.6

insight into what people are thinking in the NFL from your panel, your esteem panel,

1:25.0

coaches, executives. Are scouts also part of the panel? I guess I always

1:29.7

assume coaches and GMs, but no. Yeah, no, I think most of the personnel people would be like

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