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Quarantine, Test and Trace and BODMAS

More or Less

BBC

News Commentary, Science, Mathematics, News

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2020

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

The UK has introduced new rules requiring all people arriving in the country to self-isolate for 14 days. But given the severity of the UK’s outbreak can there be many places more infectious? Is it true that Covid-19 mostly kills people who would die soon anyway? The first figures are out showing how England’s Test and Trace programme is performing, but they contain a mystery we’re keen to resolve. And we play with some mathematical puzzles, courtesy of statistician Jen Rogers.

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0:00.0

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0:04.9

Hello and welcome to More or Less. Mostly more it seems. I'm Tim Haafard. Last week

0:11.8

I told you that today would be the last programme in the series. Apparently not. People were

0:17.6

keen to get more of that smooth, statistical groove into their lives. Something only more

0:23.0

or less can provide. And so Radio 4 asked if we wouldn't mind making a couple more episodes.

0:29.8

Last when I thought it was out, they pulled me back in. But enough about next week and

0:34.3

the week after that, let's live for today. And that means quarantine. The UK is going

0:40.1

to quarantine arrivals from the rest of the world. We ask whether it shouldn't be the

0:43.8

other way around. We examine the idea that Covid-19 mostly kills people who were about

0:49.8

to die anyway. And we play with some mathematical puzzles, courtesy of statistician Jen Rogers.

0:57.1

First though, at the end of last week, the government released its initial figures

1:02.1

showing how well its test and trace programme was performing. And we thought we've got

1:07.5

someone who enjoys looking at the government's testing numbers. So we sat down our producer,

1:12.8

Kate Lambel, for her dream afternoon. Her pencil, a scrap of paper, a glass of slow gin,

1:19.3

and lots and lots of numbers. What did you find, Kate?

1:22.8

Well the gin was excellent, homemade on the rocks, you know, perfect.

1:26.3

What sounds like the quintessential lockdown beverage I was actually thinking more of the

1:29.8

numbers though. Ah, them. Well there's a bit of mystery with the numbers.

1:33.6

Oh I love a mystery, go on. The idea behind the test and trace programme

1:37.1

is that if someone tests positive, they're followed up and their contacts are traced,

1:41.6

which sounds straightforward. But when you dig into the figures, you find one really

1:46.0

interesting number, the people who were referred to test and trace in the first place.

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