Quality, Accessible, Sustainable Medical Care | Dr. Marion Mass - E433
Low Carb MD Podcast
Drs. Brian Lenzkes & Tro Kalayjian
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 9 March 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
Dr. Marion Mass is a pediatrician, educator, and fierce advocate for restoring integrity to American medicine. A co-founder of the nonprofit Practicing Physicians of America, she has been a leading voice calling out the corporate forces reshaping health care and their impact on doctors and patients alike.
In this episode, Dr. Brian, Dr. Tro, and Dr. Marion talk about…
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(00:00) Intro
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(02:29) Systemic problems in medicine over the last few decades and how we can solve them
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(05:27) Perverse incentives in health insurance and how health care can be made cheaper
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(14:40) Conflicts of interest in health insurance
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(19:52) What brought Dr. Marion to medicine and inspired her to work to reform the healthcare system
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(25:37) Conflicts of interest in the AMA and other medical organizations
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(35:23) The path forward to a more transparent medical care system
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(41:19) Remdesivir and Covid
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(46:53) Perverse incentives in gender change procedures and drugs
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(51:48) Governmental and political interference in the practice of medicine
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(01:02:35) Outro
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Practicing Physicians of America: https://practicingphysician.org
Dr. Brian Lenzkes:
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Website: https://arizonametabolichealth.com/
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Website: https://toward.health
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/DoctorTro
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Low Carb MD Podcast. No one is beyond help. No one is beyond hope. |
| 0:07.2 | Nothing said on the Low Carb MD podcast is medical advice. Please consult your own doctor before making any |
| 0:13.7 | lifestyle changes. |
| 0:24.0 | Hello and welcome back to the low carb MD podcast. |
| 0:27.8 | Trow, this is going to be an easy one because we're going to fix medicine in about five minutes and then we'll just talk about other step after that. |
| 0:30.3 | Simple thing. |
| 0:32.1 | The next 40 minutes is going to be important to listen. |
| 0:36.7 | If you're a doc out there who's tired of the conflicts |
| 0:39.4 | of interest in medicine, if you're tired of the conflicts in pediatrics, if you're tired of |
| 0:46.5 | the perverse incentives in medicine, starting from the hospital networks and the facility |
| 0:53.7 | fees and the bloat all the way to the hospital networks and the facility fees and the bloat, |
| 0:55.0 | all the way to the insurance companies and the PBMs and the regulations that are really binding |
| 1:01.0 | medicine and ruining medicine, like we all know. You're going to love this guest. If you're a young |
| 1:07.0 | doc, you're going to love this guest. If you're in a whole doc, you're going to love this guest. you're in a hold doc you're going to love this guest |
| 1:11.8 | and if you're somebody who wants to sort of break free from uh the corporate and hospital system |
| 1:20.1 | monopolies that are strangleholding medicine you're going to love this guest today we have dr marion |
| 1:25.7 | mass am i pronouncing that right? |
| 1:28.1 | I just, I, yeah. |
| 1:29.9 | Yeah, just like Catholic Church. |
| 1:31.8 | Yeah, Marianne Mass. |
| 1:32.9 | Perfect. |
| 1:33.5 | Love it, you know. |
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